Keith Frankish
I, scientist with Balazs Kegl - A podcast by Balazs Kegl

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00:00:00 Intro. Why philosophy of mind is important for AI and for me as a human.00:04:53 Schools on consciousness, a historical perspective. Conscious person and conscious mental state, thought, experience, or perception00:13:16 Qualia and the hard problem. The objective/subjective divide.00:20:40 Some options: physicalism, dualism, panpsychism, illusionism.00:24:14 My reaction to the world "illusion" is that I get angry.00:26:37 Pain _is_ real in illusionism. What we can be wrong about is _what_ it actually is.00:29:15 Dual aspect monism and Mark Solms. Functional view of consciousness.00:33:35 Zombies, philosophical, the existential, and the AI zombie.00:39:09 Panpsychism, the inner light, what it is to be like an electron. The combination problem. Psychological function.00:44:19 Why are we positing a private world? Because we have one. But what if it is a sort of illusion?00:46:01 There is no magical awareness of anything. Awareness requires a mechanism. First of Keith's points from this presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1jnW0MHlb8&t=2081s00:49:04 The same goes for self-awareness and for mental states and emotions.00:50:43 You can't know being in a state by being in it. Do cats know they are angry? What do you mean by knowing? Reflection and transparency.00:54:19 Money. The phenomenal properties, the stories we build around conscious feelings are similar to money, one can say that they are both illusory constructs. Daniel Dennett. Illusory does not mean meaningless.01:01:04 But isn't then all perception illusory? We should have a concept of useful and non-useful illusions?01:05:39 Gripped by pain. Nothing above the physiological reactions. What about altered states of consciousness? Dissociation?01:10:47 If you seem to be aware of something scientifically inexplicable, it is more likely that you are misperceiving or misinterpreting something.01:17:56 Illusionism as a way of life? Nagel on Dennett (https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017/03/09/is-consciousness-an-illusion-dennett-evolution). 01:20:57 Does illusionism deny the _authority_ of the first person vew over the third person view?01:24:42 How did Keith become an illusionist? 01:27:51 Stage magic, feeling cheated or not, stage vs real magic.01:28:46 Music. All that evolution cares about is the effect. Evolution selected the mechanism that made us feel metaphysically special.01:31:41 How do we decide what is real, what is not? Consciousness = awareness? Can you be in pain without being aware of it?01:35:38 1st person falsifiability: can you imagine any experience you would go through that would change your mind about illusionism?01:43:47 AI. Keith's question: am I enthusiastic, am I frightened? AGI, social media recommendation, GPT, embodiment. I, scientist blog: https://balazskegl.substack.comTwitter: https://twitter.com/balazskeglArtwork: DALL-EMusic: Bea Palya https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBDp3qcFZdU1yoWIRpMSaZw Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.